Stargate: SG-1 Insiders SPOILERS

[justalurkr]

OK, the NID guy went batshit in the commissary in such a way that (a) made me wonder why people coming into the SGC through the front door aren't subject to the same precautionary exams as those returning through the stargate, especially in light of the goa'uld infiltration of the Trust; and (b) made me holler at Beau Bridges General Landry "She so DID have a reason to know better!" at the end.

Insiders joins Gemini in the Samantha Carter Hall of Shame. The writers at Bridge are probably waiting to hear whether they've sufficiently de-supered Sam yet and can now return to their regularly scheduled Carter-worship.

In the end, that was a lot of Ba'als in the air, wasn't it?

[ducks, flees]

It really was a pleasure to see (and hear! I had several Accent Ho meltdowns) so much of Cliff Simon. We haven't had this puissant a tasty-hot goa'uld villain (Tanith wasn't that powerful, after all, though nobody does snotty menace quite like Peter Wingfield) since Apophis.

[moment of nostalgic sighs for Apophis]

If I recall last week's SG-1 The Pegasus Project correctly, Morgan le Fay was totally saying that the weapon of Merlin was not...then she disappeared, but I'm left wondering at all the surprise that the answers she handed Daniel Jackson with the appropriate convolutions are not turning out to be as obvious as they first appeared. These are Ancients we're talking about here.

Altogether, tonight's episode struck me as Exposition Hour, with a pleasant side distraction of Cliff Simon and further proof that the writers Just Don't Get that there's a happy medium between Super!Sam and Dumb Blonde.


In brief, I expect I'll be re-watching SGA's Sateda a lot more than this one.

Comments

[nialla]

If I recall last week's SG-1 The Pegasus Project correctly, Morgan le Fay was totally saying that the weapon of Merlin was not...then she disappeared, but I'm left wondering at all the surprise that the answers she handed Daniel Jackson with the appropriate convolutions are not turning out to be as obvious as they first appeared. These are Ancients we're talking about here.

I've been wondering about Morgan's statement too.

Merlin's weapon is not...

...on planet a.
...on planet b.
...on either planet.
...what you think it is.
...the answer to your problem with the Ori.

And that's still assuming Morgan was telling the truth and not trying to distract Daniel, either for her own reasons or for those of the Ancients as a whole. I'm pretty sure the Ancients aren't thrilled with the idea of humanity getting control of a weapon that can not only destroy the Ori, but them as well. Which makes me wonder why they haven't destroyed it themselves.

[waves hand wildly]

[justalurkr.livejournal.com]

Which makes me wonder why they haven't destroyed it themselves.

I know that one!

Taking a deep breath and relying on continuity according to Bridge writers (I'm a thrillseeker at heart,) Merlin descended to develop the weapon that would work on the Ori because doing it while Ascended is interfering. Once he descended, screwing with him or his work becomes interference for the Ascended.

I stil maintain that SG-1 doesn't need to find Merlin's weapon. Just let Rodney McKay know there are Ascended women prowling the halls of Atlantis within reach of his boyfriend, and the issue will be dealt with shortly after second breakfast.

Re: [waves hand wildly]

[nialla]

But there are the Others, such as Oma, who might well have taken that risk. Apparently shielding our galaxy from their cousins was fine, and that seems like the ultimate in interfering to me.

What I want to know is, who made up the rules that both the Ori and the Ancients are following them, if to the letter and not the spirit? Or is it they're simply following the rules to avoid war that can only end in mutual self-destruction?

Re: [waves hand wildly]

[justalurkr.livejournal.com]

Ah, my old Cold Warrior heart goes pitter-pat at the mutual assured destruction flashback. :D

That's a pretty good reason right there, actually. The weapon at Dakara substantiates that destruction of all life has been on the table (and references to "re-seeding" seem to indicate it's happened at least once) in the past. Even a race with ZPMs can't afford to hose that kind of energy around very often, and setting up some kind of inter-Ascended, intergalactic Geneva Convention ("these are the lines we can't afford will not cross") makes all kinds of sense.

Too much sense, in fact. What am I thinking? Obviously there's something bigger and more powerful than Ancient Ascended beings lurking around in the background, or our plucky gate travelers won't be able to defeat the current menace without having another one in reserve for the all-important future seasons.

Silly me. Obviously not a troo-fan if I'm still obsessing over logic and continuity.

Re: [waves hand wildly]

[nialla]

My fanwank is the Ancients are really various groups over time, some splintering off with different beliefs, such as the Ori.

Compare the real, live Ancients we saw in "Before I Sleep" to what we were expecting. They didn't look like a spiritual people focusing on Ascension. They looked and acted like accountants, with the Wraith attack akin to tax season. No offense to accountants. ;)

I'm thinking the earliest Ancients were the ones who discovered Ascencion via meditation. Those who came after them tried, but each generation was less than the one before, so fewer could do it naturally, so they started relying more on technology to do it for them. Those later, lesser generations still had access to all their ancestors had left for them, so they still look rather magic-like to lesser mortals, but they weren't anywhere near the same level.

Which came first, the Ori or the Altera? The name would make you think Ori = origin and Altera = alternate, but it's still hard to know whether they're the "real" Ancients.

Re: [waves hand wildly]

[orange852.livejournal.com]

For people nominally practicing Alternate beliefs, the Alterans sure were dull sorts.

I should have added...

[justalurkr.livejournal.com]

...and, of course, Merlin had to descended to avoid the others interfering in his interference.

Given Daniel's and Orlen's histories of rubber ball descension, this all leads me to wonder what the rules concerning Merlin's work should he have re-Ascended after finishing it. Would it be fair game? Was Morgan trying to say "Merlin's weopan isn't what you think it is, pretty much because we blew that sucker up?"