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Infinite possibilities. Infinite universes. Infinite story ideas, and only Sam Carter has a love life? The only variations among the realities worth discussing are what man took Samantha Carter off the team?

Sha're, Shau'nauc, Vala, Kira...Sorry, ladies.

Seriously, I wouldn't have minded the usual alternate reality = who's Sam banging? so much if they'd pull in some of the other characters! Maybe Teal'c ran away and joined the Jaffa circus with Ry'ac in that reality where Martouf is on the team? No, all we care about is that Sam is on maternity leave and we never really got to know who's her baby's daddy (as if there were any doubt in the minds of the boys at Bridge or squeeing shippers everywhere.)

Other than that, I loved this ep.

Landry seriously thought he was going to strand sixteen SG-1s, screw over their worlds and not one of them would try to do anything about it? THIS IS SG-1! THEY GET'ER DONE! What an adorable idiot Landry can be. Possible he's a former Bridge script writer?

Ben Browder can stop channeling the Crichton Comedy Hour any day now. He's only Mitchel when he's serious, then I see John-boy all over the screen.

Michael Shanks was criminally underused in this one. Sixteen Daniel Jacksons, skilled in the ways of passionate, mind-changing argument, and they sent Dr. Frasier to talk Landry around? Sixteen Daniel Jacksons, and not one of them had anything to say about the ethics of the situation? Still, he, like Christopher Judge, is always a delight to look at.

I liked the methodology of getting everyone here and the Naughty SG-1's rationalization, though I believe that Team McShep might have proven more formidable in the defense of their ZPM than planned upon.

I look forward to a cascade of AU fic....

Date: 2006-01-24 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraith816.livejournal.com
Still, he is always a delight to look at.

Tiger Blue BDU Daniel with the sunglasses? GUH. Just...GUH.

Date: 2006-01-24 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
I'm trying to hate it that they've reduced Daniel to a pretty mannequin model of BDUs, but it's hard. [wipes chin]

Date: 2006-01-24 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bugchicklv.livejournal.com
THANK GOD for Joe's post/blog at GW. If one of my flisters hadn't pointed me that way, I'd have had the dry heaves for days.

'Cause, for AT LEAST JOE, the other SG teams DID have other uses and interests and personalities and LOVE LIVES. He tried. He CHOSE not to even MENTION "the ship o' doom." Now, if only he'd pay attention when we SNITers talk about wanting REPLICarter (and now BlackTeam!Carter) instead of the one we have. Who (IMHO) was secretly switched for ANOTHER (KickAss!Carter) sometime before the end of the Gauntlet/DOED/energy wall/TIT MONSTER! episode.

YAY! for the return of Janet. She has been sorely missed (I swear I think I saw a tear in Teal'c's eye), and WTF? She didn't ask about Cassie FIRST!?!?! I, too, was confused as to her role, and wondered why SHE was the one to plead the case to Landry. Maybe that is her position on her SG-1 team? And the mission she died on? Colonel Dave Dixon-team leader, and *I* think it might have been the PERFECT opportunity ("right script"???) to bring him back. Yes, I am still on the BRING BACK COLONEL DAVE DIXON rampage...and Joe--he DID say that it was a distinct possibility (he was just waiting on/looking for the right script). 'Cause they loved Adam. Not as much as I do, but still.

Not happy with only a mention of Jacob/Selmak. It seemed like a cheap tease.

BUT we did get NotDead!Martouf (I thought the only one of him still alive was in Pegasus, serving under Dixon on [livejournal.com profile] sg_15. *snerk* "serving under") It was SO GOOD to see him. And, believe it or not, I thought he and Sam had more chemistry than *heave* she and 'Sir" *heave* they have ever had. Damn the Black Widow Curse; OF COURSE they had to send him back, or else he'd have a bad case of dead (most likely 'cause of her).

My love of Ben must have clouded my judgment about BlackTeam!SG-1. Either that, or The Voice of Reason (Daniel) is rubbing off on me; from the get-go I never saw their actions as deliberately malicious. THEY WERE doing EXACTLY what RealTeam!SG-1 would have done especially if Jack *HAD* been there. (Um, anyone remember "early revolt against Ra causing him to take the gate from Earth, killing them, and resulting in nerdy!Carter and WTFareyouwearing!Daniel having to save the timeline?" Impatient!Jack to the rescue...er, to their deaths!)

(I also think the overuse of Mitchell right now balances out his DIS-use in the first half of the eps. As much as I love the characters, "The Daniel and Vala Show" was a bit...one sided. And (IMHO) he is not channeling John; John and Mitchell BOTH channel Real!Ben when it is time to be funny. Too much of the Actor's, and not enough of the characters', personalities shine through. This will become a problem if/when he gets bored and starts phoning in the scenes. *Deja Vu?* *reminds me of someone else*)

In the end, I think that, had it been shown with all the scenes as filmed/scripted, this could have been one HELL of an episode. The Danny and Teal'c fans would have been happier, the SNITers would have cried tears of joy, the slashers wouldn't feel so IGNORED (*whee! BlackTeam!Mitchell/BlackTeam!Daniel...Joe said it!) and the characters would have been something other than Fan nods/eye-candy/wall props. Or stupid talking!heads, breathin' up my air and boring us silly.

Date: 2006-01-24 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
In the absence of the events in Moebius, this would pretty much have been the other viable plan to obtain a ZPM. BlackTeam!SGC was prioritizing its world and timeline continuity over everyone else, just like Our!SGC. BlackTeam!Carter clearly stuck to her guns over there, which is another reason I believe we'd rather have her back.

AND, BlackTeam!Mitchell was right...the threat to his Earth was a lot more immediate than the Wraith threat to our Earth.

Date: 2006-01-24 04:24 am (UTC)
nialla: (Whedon)
From: [personal profile] nialla
Ben Browder can stop channeling the Crichton Comedy Hour any day now. He's only Mitchel when he's serious, then I see John-boy all over the screen.

I'd much rather ditch the Mitchell vs. Mitchell having a Good Ole Boy chat and had some of the other scenes instead. Didn't do a thing for me, other than making both versions of Mitchell look like goobers. Also didn't like the comment he made in the briefing about the possibility that in an AU he made it to second base with some girl. Landry was right there, and should have smacked him down over that one.

I liked the methodology of getting everyone here and the Naughty SG-1's rationalization, though I believe that Team McShep might have proven more formidable in the defense of their ZPM than planned upon.

I can't figure out how the black team thought they were going to accomplish their plan to steal a ZPM from Atlantis. How could they know that their team would be on the Prometheus in the first place? Then they'd have to take another SG-1 out of commission. Then take on Team McShep and the rest of Atlantis (and possibly the Daedalus too).

Then if they did manage to pry the ZedPM out of Rodney's cold, dead hands, they'd have to get past a really pissed off Shep, and figure out a way to return to their universe. The SGC had to borrow something from the Asgard to accomplish it, so how could a lone alt!SG-1 manage it on their own?

I liked the fan service we got (though the USS Sam is getting so very old), but the episode totally doesn't make logical sense. I know, I know, I'm dropping logic bombs again, aren't I?

Date: 2006-01-24 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
BlackTeam!SG-1 knew because first, they started this mess in the first place; second, because BlackTeam!Sam "thought up" the solution and presented to Our!Sam and Hot!Martouf, and, in a scene we didn't see, convinced Landry that they'd be the logical team to help implement it, though the writers could have done a much better job of showing the need for two SG-1's to make the mission succeed.

BlackTeam!SG-1 actually did a pretty decent job of taking another SG-1 out of commission, they just didn't think far enough ahead to keep them out of commission.

But...how they expected to acquire the Atlantis ZPM? Maybe Team McShep didn't make it to Atlantis in their reality, so they're sadly underestimating the opposition out there. :D

Date: 2006-01-25 03:33 am (UTC)
nialla: (Whedon)
From: [personal profile] nialla
BlackTeam!SG-1 knew because first, they started this mess in the first place; second, because BlackTeam!Sam "thought up" the solution and presented to Our!Sam and Hot!Martouf, and, in a scene we didn't see, convinced Landry that they'd be the logical team to help implement it, though the writers could have done a much better job of showing the need for two SG-1's to make the mission succeed.

So all the stuff that put them on the Prometheus happened offscreen? Then it didn't happen, IMO. Either way, for them to succeed, it would take a lot of people in our universe being terminally stupid... er, wait. That's pretty much what almost happened, isn't it?

But...how they expected to acquire the Atlantis ZPM? Maybe Team McShep didn't make it to Atlantis in their reality, so they're sadly underestimating the opposition out there. :D

They'd have to fake their way with the Atlantis expedition, and you just know Weir's going to be a pain in the ass and ask too many questions. They'd probably want to get confirmation from the SGC too, which the alt team would have to either tap dance from keeping them from making the call or use force to just take the ZPM. Then there's the chance that the Daedalus would be close enough to put in a fight. Even if they make it through all of those hoops, the question still remains as to how they thought they'd get back.

Augh. AUs and time travel make my head hurt.

Date: 2006-01-25 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Here's another throbbing blood vessel: They wouldn't know to go to Atlantis in our universe unless they'd been in their universe, right? If they couldn't poach a ZPM from their Atlantis, what made them think ours would have one?

Date: 2006-01-26 04:38 am (UTC)
nialla: (Whedon)
From: [personal profile] nialla
Maybe the problem was getting to Atlantis? Maybe they hadn't built the Daedalus or upgraded the Prometheus, or they were destroyed before they could attempt to get the ZPM back?

Perhaps they were thwarted recently enough that they thought going to another reality would mean it was highly likely it happened there yet? Still, it's all a matter of a string of coincidences all working in their favor to find a ZPM and getting it back to their universe.

I can't believe...

Date: 2006-01-25 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
(A) I posted anonymously in my own LJ

or

(B) LJ won't let me delete the comment, telling me the URL doesn't match the owner.

It's official. I'm schizophrenic.

Re: I can't believe...

Date: 2006-01-26 04:42 am (UTC)
nialla: (enjoyable)
From: [personal profile] nialla
Well, I wasn't going to say anything... ;)

Date: 2006-01-25 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunachickk.livejournal.com
Michael Shanks was criminally underused in this one. Sixteen Daniel Jacksons, skilled in the ways of passionate, mind-changing argument, and they sent Dr. Frasier to talk Landry around? Sixteen Daniel Jacksons, and not one of them had anything to say about the ethics of the situation?

I'll be in ma bunk...

Date: 2006-01-25 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justalurkr.livejournal.com
:D Yeah, 16 Daniel Jacksons might be just enough for the basic implementation of fantasies...

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