Stargate canon question

[justalurkr]

It concerns mind control in the Stargate universe, and references events in "Insiders," so it goes behind the cut. There.

OK, we know that in early season of SG-1, Hathor and Seth both used nish'ta to exert mind control and leave people in a suggestible state that could be reversed by a mild electric shock.

Is that what Ba'al did to Agent Barrett, or has he pulled some other form of mind control out of his snaky ass? I can't find a reference in Stargate Wiki at Solutions nor at Wikipedia proper. :(

I fear my geek cred is in jeopardy!



And while we're asking canon questions, has the goddess Ma'at ever been used in Stargate canon?

Comments

[chrissie-m.livejournal.com]

Well, Apophis did some brainwashing of both Teal'c and his son, in some unspecified, offscreen way.

And nope, no Ma'at.

Thanks!

[justalurkr.livejournal.com]

Oh, good point about Apophis, Teal'c and Ry'ac! I'll pass that on to the fic author.

:D Ma'at is a favorite of mine, and may be coming soon to a fic near you!

Thanks for helping out!

[nialla]

The type of brainwashing he used hasn't been specified as far as I know, other than it's whatever has been used by the Trust people. You'd think if it was nish'ta or some other chemical (can you say "Irresistable"?) they'd come up with a "vaccine" against it, or at least a quick test for it. I'd think anyone working around the SGC's projects would have to get tested for a lot of stuff quite often.

[justalurkr.livejournal.com]

I'm feeling all lazy and stuff about digging out my eps (I can't even remember if it was Birthright or Bloodline and Bloodright or what) and seeing if they ever specified.

Googling "stargate mind control" got me to a regular Wikipedia article about Ba'al & his antics over the course of the series (not nearly enough pictures, though) and it was a non-specific mind control he was using on his post-rebellion Jaffa.

[nialla]

The Trust members targeted Ba'al's territory back in "Endgame" (8.10). They escaped and were captured by the Goa'uld (but it's unknown who exactly captured them), implanted with snakes, and sent back to earth to implant more symbiotes in "Full Alert" (8.14).

But actual mind control by Ba'al doesn't seem to come up until Stronghold (9.14), where the Jaffa Council members are brainwashed. I'm unclear if it's the same method used to make a Zatarc (the infamous "Divide and Conquer") or not. In those cases, apparently the person was programmed to kill someone and the memory of the procedure was covered up. What's in use now seems much more complex than that was.